Daf Yomi

Chullin 116

On-RampAugust 24, 2026

Sugya Map

  • Issue: The logical mechanics of a fortiori (kal va-chomer) inferences regarding prohibitions (meat and milk).
  • Core Question: When does a kal va-chomer withstand a pircha (refutation)? Specifically, the distinction between a single-source derivation (chad mi-chada) vs. multi-source derivations (chad mi-tarti or trata).
  • Nafka Mina: Whether the prohibition of basar be-chalav (meat and milk) is robust enough to include species like birds or wild animals (chayah), and the status of rennet (keivah) from non-kosher sources.
  • Primary Sources: Chullin 116a; Deuteronomy 22:9 (Kilayim); Exodus 23:19 (Basar be-chalav); Mishnah Kilayim 7:8.

Text Snapshot

The Gemara formalizes the logic of refutation:

"חדא מחדא... פירכינן קולא וחומרא ולא כל דהו" (Chullin 116a) (Literal: For a single [source] from a single [source]... we refute [only] by [invoking] a leniency and a stringency, but not by any [minor] aspect.)

The dikduk here is critical: The Gemara distinguishes between a pircha that is structural (balancing stringencies) versus a pircha that is kol de-hu (any incidental difference). The hierarchy of inferential strength is the engine of the entire sugya.

Readings

Rashi (ad loc., s.v. chad mi-tarti)

Rashi explains that in a chad mi-tarti (deriving from two sources), we are entitled to use a pircha of kol de-hu—any unique aspect—unless the din reverts (hadr dinei). Rashi’s chiddush is that the "reversion" of the law acts as a stabilizer. If the logic "reverts" to the common denominator of all sources, the structural strength increases, forcing the pircha back to the more difficult kulah ve-chumrah standard.

Tosafot (ad loc., s.v. chad mi-tarti)

Tosafot challenges the Gemara’s claim that we can refute a chad mi-tarti with kol de-hu. They ask: If we have multiple sources (e.g., chametz on Pesach and kilayim), why don't we immediately collapse the derivation by pointing to a kol de-hu? Tosafot’s chiddush is that if you have a robust enough set of sources, the pircha is neutralized if the din reverts to a common principle. They essentially argue that the "number" of sources isn't just cumulative; it creates a logical "surround" that limits the ability of a superficial pircha to dismantle the derivation.

Friction

The Kushya: The Gemara attempts to use kilayim (diverse kinds) to derive the prohibition of basar be-chalav. The refutation offered is that kilayim is unique because it is forbidden from the moment it is "fit" (sha'ah she-hi re'uyah). However, Rav Adda bar Ahava counters that even kilayim has a state of being "unfit" (the roots), which would invalidate the pircha.

The Terutz: Abaye resolves this by invoking the "two verses" principle. He distinguishes between planting ab initio (immediate prohibition) and bringing a pot into a vineyard (prohibited only if it grows). This creates a chiluk (distinction) in the source itself. The friction here is the tension between logical purity (the kal va-chomer) and textual atomism (the drashot on specific words like "seed" vs. "growth"). The terutz suggests that when a kal va-chomer is challenged by a pircha, the fallback is not just a better kal va-chomer, but a gezerat ha-katuv (scriptural decree) that defines the boundaries of the prohibition.

Intertext

  • Mishnah Chullin 8:1: The mishnah there lists the specific tannaitic disputes regarding birds and wild animals. The sugya in 116a functions as the logical infrastructure for the machloket between Rabbi Akiva and Rabbi Yosei HaGelili.
  • Avodah Zarah 29b: The sugya here cites the "retraction" of Rabbi Yehoshua regarding rennet. This is a classic example of hilchata ke-batrai (the law follows the later authority) applied to a mishnah that retains outdated layers—a "fossilized" text within the Mishnah.

Psak/Practice

The psak on rennet (keivah) is highly permissive: "The milk collected in a stomach is merely secretion and is not considered food." This follows the logic that the contents of the stomach are peirot (secretions/waste) rather than basar (meat).

Meta-Psak Heuristic: When dealing with derashot that seem to conflict, the Chazal here prioritize the halacha that survives the "reversion" of the din. In modern applications of hilchata, this informs the minhag to rely on the heter of rennet (even from non-kosher sources) because the structural argument for its prohibition is weaker than the evidence for its status as a non-food secretion.

Takeaway

Logical refutations are not mere debating points; they are litmus tests for the integrity of a halakhic category. When a kal va-chomer cannot withstand a pircha, the Gemara does not abandon the law—it pivots to the p'shat of the verse, proving that law is a synthesis of logic and revelation.