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Mishnah Chullin 7:5-6

StandardStartup MenschNovember 14, 2025

Hook

Founders, let’s talk about that gnawing feeling. You’ve built something, you’re growing, and suddenly you’re staring at a situation where the right thing to do feels… ambiguous. The rules aren't crystal clear, and the easy path might just be the one that compromises your integrity. This isn't about hypothetical ethical dilemmas; it’s about the practical, often messy, reality of scaling a business.

Consider this: you’re in the food industry, or perhaps manufacturing, where ingredient sourcing, supply chain integrity, and product quality are paramount. You discover a hidden issue – a minor impurity, a less-than-ideal sourcing practice that’s become industry standard, or a process that’s technically compliant but ethically dubious. The temptation is to look the other way. After all, the product is still functional, the profit margins are solid, and pointing out the problem could disrupt everything. It’s like finding a small, inconvenient truth in the complex mechanics of your operation. You know it’s there, you know it could matter, but the immediate cost of addressing it feels disproportionately high.

This is the founder’s paradox. On one hand, you’re driven by innovation, growth, and delivering value. You have a fiduciary duty to your investors, your team, and your customers. On the other hand, you’re building a legacy, a company that reflects your values. The tension between these two imperatives is where true leadership is forged, or where it falters.

The Mishnah here, in its seemingly esoteric discussion of a sciatic nerve, cuts right to this heart of the matter. It’s not just about a specific prohibition; it’s a masterclass in navigating complexity, defining boundaries, and understanding the implications of even seemingly minor transgressions. It grapples with the scope of a law – does it apply here? Does it apply now? Does it apply to this specific instance? And crucially, it explores the concept of credibility and responsibility within a professional context – who do we trust, and what are the consequences when that trust is misplaced?

This text forces us to confront questions like: What constitutes a "conspicuous" flaw in our operations? When does a minor deviation become a significant ethical breach? How do we establish processes that ensure accountability, even when it's inconvenient? And, most importantly, how do we ensure that the "sciatic nerve" of ethical compromise, however small it may seem, doesn't ultimately render our entire enterprise forbidden or tainted? The answer to these questions will determine not just the profitability of your venture, but its soul.

Text Snapshot

The prohibition of eating the sciatic nerve applies both in Eretz Yisrael and outside of Eretz Yisrael, in the presence of, i.e., the time of, the Temple and not in the presence of the Temple, and with regard to non-sacred animals and with regard to sacrificial animals. And it applies to domesticated animals and to undomesticated animals, to the thigh of the right leg and to the thigh of the left leg. But it does not apply to a bird, due to the fact that the verse makes reference to the sciatic nerve as being “upon the spoon of the thigh” (Genesis 32:33), and a bird has no spoon of the thigh. And the prohibition applies to a late-term animal fetus [shalil] in the womb. Rabbi Yehuda says: It does not apply to a fetus; and similarly, its fat is permitted. And butchers are not deemed credible to say that the sciatic nerve was removed; this is the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say: They are deemed credible about the sciatic nerve and about the forbidden fat. Although it is prohibited for Jews to eat the sciatic nerve, a Jewish person may send the thigh of an animal to a gentile with the sciatic nerve in it, without concern that the gentile will then sell the thigh to a Jew and the Jew will eat the sciatic nerve. This leniency is due to the fact that the place of the sciatic nerve is conspicuous in the thigh. One who removes the sciatic nerve must scrape away the flesh in the area surrounding the nerve to ensure that he will remove all of it. Rabbi Yehuda says: Scraping is not required; it is sufficient to excise it from the area above the rounded protrusion in order to thereby fulfill the mitzva of removal of the sciatic nerve. One who eats an olive-bulk of the sciatic nerve incurs forty lashes. If one eats an entire sciatic nerve and it does not constitute an olive-bulk, he is nevertheless liable to receive lashes, because a complete sciatic nerve is a complete entity. If one ate an olive-bulk from this sciatic nerve in the right leg, and an olive-bulk from that sciatic nerve in the left leg, he incurs [sofeg] eighty lashes. Rabbi Yehuda says: He incurs only forty lashes, for eating the olive-bulk from the right leg, and he is exempt for eating the olive-bulk from the left leg. In the case of a thigh that was cooked with the sciatic nerve in it, if there is enough of the sciatic nerve in it to impart its flavor to the thigh, the entire thigh is forbidden for consumption. How does one measure whether there is enough sciatic nerve to impart flavor to the meat of the entire thigh? One relates to it as though the sciatic nerve were meat imparting flavor to a turnip. If meat the volume of the sciatic nerve would impart flavor to a turnip the volume of the thigh when they were cooked together, then the entire thigh is forbidden. With regard to a sciatic nerve that was cooked with other sinews, when one identifies the sciatic nerve and removes it, the other sinews are forbidden if the sciatic nerve was large enough to impart flavor. And if he does not identify it, all the sinews are forbidden because each one could be the sciatic nerve; but the broth is forbidden only if the sciatic nerve imparts flavor to the broth. And similarly, in the case of a piece of an animal carcass or a piece of non-kosher fish that was cooked with similar pieces of kosher meat or fish, when one identifies the forbidden piece and removes it, the rest of the meat or fish is forbidden only if the forbidden piece was large enough to impart flavor to the entire mixture. And if he does not identify and remove the forbidden piece, all the pieces are forbidden, due to the possibility that each piece one selects might be the forbidden piece; but the broth is forbidden only if the forbidden piece imparts flavor to the broth. The prohibition of eating the sciatic nerve applies to a kosher animal and does not apply to a non-kosher animal. Rabbi Yehuda says: It applies even to a non-kosher animal. Rabbi Yehuda said in explanation: Wasn’t the sciatic nerve forbidden for the children of Jacob, as it is written: “Therefore the children of Israel eat not the sciatic nerve” (Genesis 32:33), yet the meat of a non-kosher animal was still permitted to them? Since the sciatic nerve of non-kosher animals became forbidden at that time, it remains forbidden now. The Rabbis said to Rabbi Yehuda: The prohibition was stated in Sinai, but it was written in its place, in the battle of Jacob and the angel despite the fact that the prohibition did not take effect then.

Analysis

This Mishnah, while detailing a specific dietary law, serves as a profound case study in ethical business practices. It’s about precision, responsibility, and the impact of even seemingly small deviations. We can extract three core decision rules that are directly applicable to your business, framed by the principles of fairness, truth, and competition.

Insight 1: The "Conspicuous Flaw" Principle – Fairness and Transparency

The Mishnah states: "This leniency is due to the fact that the place of the sciatic nerve is conspicuous in the thigh."

This line is the bedrock for understanding how to build trust and ensure fairness in your operations. In a business context, the "sciatic nerve" represents any inherent flaw, risk, or non-compliance that, if not addressed, could lead to harm or violate ethical standards. The fact that this particular prohibition has a "leniency" because the problematic element is "conspicuous" highlights a critical principle: when a risk or a flaw is easily visible and identifiable, there's a greater expectation of transparency and accountability.

For founders, this translates directly into how you manage and disclose potential issues. If a problem is easily discoverable – like a poorly documented process, a visible manufacturing defect, or a clearly stated limitation in a product – then your responsibility to disclose and rectify it is amplified. The leniency here isn't about condoning the flaw, but about acknowledging that when something is obvious, the burden of proof and the expectation of ethical conduct are higher.

Consider a software company. If a critical security vulnerability is publicly known and easily exploitable, the company cannot claim ignorance or rely on complex technical jargon to obscure the issue. The vulnerability is "conspicuous." Founders must proactively address it, communicate the risks clearly, and implement robust solutions. The "leniency" here would be the ability to potentially mitigate blame if swift and transparent action is taken, because the issue was so apparent. Conversely, if the flaw is hidden, obscure, or requires specialized knowledge to detect, the ethical burden might shift slightly, but it never disappears entirely.

This principle of "conspicuousness" also touches on fairness in your competitive landscape. If your competitors are operating with significant, obvious ethical shortcomings that you have also identified, but you choose to ignore them for profit, you are participating in an unfair competitive advantage. The Torah, through this principle, suggests that obvious flaws create a higher standard. If you are competing against businesses that are cutting corners in ways that are easily seen, your commitment to not doing so, and even highlighting your own transparent practices, becomes a strategic advantage.

A practical application of this is in your supply chain. If a supplier’s labor practices are obviously exploitative and visible to anyone who looks, and you continue to source from them, you are complicit. The "conspicuousness" of their ethical lapse means your continued partnership is a clear signal of your own ethical stance.

Metric Proxy: Track the number of "red flags" or compliance issues identified in your internal audits or by external bodies that are considered "easily discoverable" (e.g., missing documentation, visible product defects, obvious policy violations) versus those that are deeply embedded and require complex analysis. A high number of conspicuous issues suggests a systemic problem with transparency and fairness. Aim to reduce the number of conspicuous, unresolved issues over time.

Insight 2: The "Credibility of Professionals" Dilemma – Truth and Due Diligence

The Mishnah states: "And butchers are not deemed credible to say that the sciatic nerve was removed; this is the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say: They are deemed credible about the sciatic nerve and about the forbidden fat."

This is a crucial point about truth in business, particularly concerning specialized professions and the reliance we place on them. Rabbi Meir’s stringent view that butchers (those whose profession it is to handle meat) are not automatically credible regarding the removal of the sciatic nerve is a powerful statement. It implies that even experts, precisely because of their deep involvement, can become desensitized or even complicit in overlooking or downplaying critical details. The Rabbis, offering a more lenient view, suggest a degree of professional credibility.

For founders, this presents a constant balancing act. You hire experts – engineers, accountants, lawyers, marketing specialists. Their knowledge is essential. However, you must never abdicate your own due diligence. The principle here is that professional expertise does not equate to absolute truth or immunity from scrutiny. You must always have mechanisms in place to verify critical information, regardless of who provides it.

Rabbi Meir’s position is a warning against blind trust, even in those who are ostensibly knowledgeable. It pushes us to ask: Who are the "butchers" in our organization? Who are the experts whose pronouncements we take at face value? Are we asking the right probing questions? Are we independently verifying their claims, especially on matters of compliance, ethics, and significant financial or operational risks?

The Rabbis’ position, on the other hand, offers a pragmatic approach: there are times when we must rely on the expertise of others. The key is to understand the conditions under which that reliance is justified. This might involve looking for professional certifications, industry best practices, independent verification, or clear audit trails.

The tension between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis reflects a fundamental business challenge: how much do you trust your team, and how much do you verify? The answer isn't to be a micromanager who trusts no one, nor is it to be a naive leader who believes everything they're told. It’s about establishing a robust system of checks and balances.

In a startup, this might mean implementing a dual-approval system for critical financial transactions, having an independent review of all legal contracts, or requiring multiple engineers to sign off on significant code deployments. The goal is to ensure that "truth" – in terms of accurate reporting, compliance, and ethical conduct – is not solely dependent on the word of one person or one department.

This also speaks to competition. If your competitors are relying on less scrupulous "experts" or are not performing due diligence, you can gain a competitive edge by demonstrating superior integrity and accuracy. Your commitment to rigorous truth-telling, even when it's difficult or costly, can become a differentiator, building a reputation for reliability that customers and partners will value.

Metric Proxy: Track the number of times critical decisions or information have been independently verified by a second party or an external audit, as opposed to being accepted solely on the word of an internal expert. A higher rate of independent verification for critical items suggests a stronger commitment to truth and due diligence.

Insight 3: "Imparting Flavor" and "Conspicuous Removal" – Competition and Scalability

The Mishnah states: "If there is enough of the sciatic nerve in it to impart its flavor to the thigh, the entire thigh is forbidden... One who removes the sciatic nerve must scrape away the flesh in the area surrounding the nerve to ensure that he will remove all of it. Rabbi Yehuda says: Scraping is not required; it is sufficient to excise it from the area above the rounded protrusion in order to thereby fulfill the mitzva of removal of the sciatic nerve."

This section delves into the practicalities of dealing with a prohibited element and its impact on the whole. The concept of "imparting flavor" is a metaphor for how a prohibited element, even in a small quantity, can contaminate or taint a larger entity. The debate between scraping the surrounding flesh versus simply excising the nerve is about the thoroughness and effectiveness of removal, especially when scaling a process.

For businesses, this is about understanding how a single unethical practice, a flawed product component, or a compliance loophole can "impart flavor" to your entire operation, rendering it unacceptable. It's about the rigor required for removal and the potential for scalability.

Rabbi Meir’s approach (implied by the need to scrape) emphasizes a comprehensive removal. This suggests that when dealing with something prohibited, a superficial fix is insufficient. You must go deeper, removing not just the obvious offending part but also ensuring that no trace remains that could contaminate the rest. This is crucial for scaling. A quick fix that works for a small batch might fail when you’re producing thousands or millions of units.

Rabbi Yehuda’s view, allowing excision from above the protrusion, represents a more minimalist approach. This could be seen as the "minimum viable product" of ethical compliance – doing just enough to technically meet the requirement. However, in a business context, especially as you scale, this minimalist approach is fraught with risk. What if the "protrusion" is not as clear-cut as you thought? What if the "excising" isn't as clean? The risk of contamination – of the prohibited element spreading – is much higher.

The implications for competition are significant. Businesses that adopt Rabbi Meir’s approach to ethical removal – thoroughly and comprehensively addressing issues – are building a more resilient and trustworthy foundation. They are less likely to face catastrophic failures or reputational damage down the line. This thoroughness, while potentially more costly upfront, is a strategic investment in long-term sustainability and competitive advantage.

Consider a financial institution dealing with money laundering regulations. Simply excising the obvious large transactions (Rabbi Yehuda’s approach) might technically fulfill a basic requirement. However, not scraping away the surrounding flesh – not implementing robust AML protocols across the board, not training all staff, not having sophisticated monitoring systems – leaves the institution vulnerable. The "flavor" of illicit activity can easily spread through smaller, less conspicuous transactions. A truly compliant institution, like one adhering to Rabbi Meir’s principle, would meticulously investigate and implement comprehensive controls, ensuring that the entire system is clean.

The concept of "imparting flavor" also highlights how a single bad actor or a single flawed process can negatively impact the reputation of the entire organization. If one employee engages in unethical behavior, and it’s not thoroughly addressed, the entire company’s ethical standing can be compromised.

Metric Proxy: Measure the incidence of "contaminating events" – instances where a minor ethical lapse or compliance issue escalated to a significant problem or regulatory fine. A high incidence of such events suggests that your "removal" processes are more akin to Rabbi Yehuda's minimalist approach, rather than Rabbi Meir's thorough scraping. Track the time and resources invested in proactive ethical remediation versus reactive crisis management. A higher investment in proactive measures is a proxy for a more robust ethical framework.

Policy Move

Policy: Implement a "Conspicuous Risk Assessment and Mitigation Framework"

Rationale: Drawing directly from the principle that "the place of the sciatic nerve is conspicuous in the thigh," this policy aims to formalize the process of identifying, assessing, and mitigating risks that are evident or readily discoverable within our operations. The goal is to move beyond reactive problem-solving and proactively address potential ethical and compliance breaches before they escalate, ensuring fairness and transparency in our business practices. This framework will also inform our approach to truth and ensure that professional expertise is always coupled with rigorous due diligence, and it will strengthen our competitive position by building a reputation for thoroughness and integrity.

Policy Details:

  1. Mandatory Conspicuous Risk Identification Sessions:

    • Frequency: Quarterly, or upon significant business process changes.
    • Participants: Cross-functional teams including leadership, operations, legal/compliance, product development, and relevant department heads.
    • Objective: To systematically identify any processes, products, services, or operational aspects that have a readily apparent or easily discoverable ethical, legal, or compliance risk. This includes, but is not limited to:
      • Visible product defects or quality issues.
      • Ambiguous or potentially misleading marketing claims.
      • Overtly non-compliant operational procedures or documentation gaps.
      • Supplier or partner practices that are obviously exploitative or unethical.
      • Areas where internal policies are vague or demonstrably unenforced.
      • Customer feedback highlighting consistent, obvious service failures.
    • Output: A documented list of identified conspicuous risks.
  2. Risk Scoring and Prioritization:

    • Criteria: Each identified risk will be scored based on:
      • Visibility/Conspicuousness: How easily discoverable is the risk? (High score for very obvious risks).
      • Potential Impact: What is the potential harm to customers, reputation, legal standing, or financial health if this risk materializes?
      • Likelihood of Occurrence: How probable is it that this risk will manifest?
    • Output: A prioritized list of conspicuous risks, with a focus on those that are highly visible and have a significant potential impact.
  3. Mitigation Action Planning (The "Scraping" Protocol):

    • Requirement: For all high-priority conspicuous risks, a detailed mitigation plan must be developed and approved. This plan must go beyond superficial fixes, adhering to the principle of thorough removal (like "scraping away the flesh").
    • Plan Components:
      • Root Cause Analysis: Understanding why the conspicuous risk exists.
      • Action Steps: Specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, and time-bound (SMART) actions to eliminate or substantially reduce the risk. These steps should aim for comprehensive resolution, not just a quick fix.
      • Responsible Parties: Clearly assigned owners for each action step.
      • Timeline: Realistic deadlines for implementation.
      • Verification Method: How will we confirm that the risk has been effectively mitigated and that the "flavor" has been removed? This might involve re-audits, testing, or enhanced monitoring.
      • Documentation: All mitigation efforts, including evidence of their effectiveness, must be thoroughly documented.
    • "Minimum Viable Ethical Fix" Warning: Any proposed mitigation that resembles Rabbi Yehuda’s approach (minimalist excision without thoroughness) will be flagged for review and requires explicit justification and leadership approval, with a clear acknowledgment of the elevated residual risk.
  4. "Credibility Check" Integration:

    • Process: For any critical information or compliance assurance provided by internal subject matter experts or external consultants, a "Credibility Check" protocol will be initiated.
    • Protocol:
      • Identify the "Expert": Who is providing the critical information?
      • Define the "Sciatic Nerve": What is the specific aspect of their expertise that is being relied upon (e.g., financial reporting accuracy, regulatory compliance confirmation, technical feasibility)?
      • Verification Steps: Based on the risk assessment, determine the necessary verification steps. This could include:
        • Requesting supporting documentation.
        • Cross-referencing with industry standards or best practices.
        • Seeking a second opinion from another internal expert or an independent third party.
        • Implementing sample testing or audits on a portion of the work.
      • Documentation of Verification: Record the verification steps taken and their outcomes.
    • Escalation: If verification reveals discrepancies or raises further concerns, the issue must be escalated to senior leadership and the compliance/legal department.
  5. Regular Review and Iteration:

    • Process: The effectiveness of the "Conspicuous Risk Assessment and Mitigation Framework" will be reviewed annually by the leadership team.
    • Objective: To identify areas for improvement, update risk categories, and ensure the framework remains relevant and impactful. Lessons learned from past mitigation efforts will be incorporated.

Implementation Steps:

  • Develop standardized templates for risk identification, scoring, and mitigation planning.
  • Conduct initial training sessions for all relevant personnel on the new framework.
  • Integrate risk assessment into existing project management and operational review processes.
  • Establish a central repository for documented risks and their mitigation status.
  • Assign a "Chief Ethics Officer" or a designated senior leader responsible for overseeing the implementation and adherence to this framework.

KPI Proxy: Track the reduction in the number of customer complaints or regulatory inquiries directly related to "conspicuous" issues (e.g., obvious product flaws, misleading information) over a 12-month period. Also, track the percentage of high-priority conspicuous risks that have a fully documented and verified mitigation plan in place within the defined timeline.

Board-Level Question

Question: "Given the Mishnah's emphasis on the 'conspicuous' nature of ethical transgressions and the debate surrounding the credibility of professionals, how do we, as a board, ensure that our company’s commitment to integrity is not merely a matter of superficial compliance or a reliance on expert assurances, but rather a deeply embedded, verifiable practice that actively mitigates risks, particularly those that are readily apparent and could 'impart flavor' to our entire enterprise? Specifically, what systemic mechanisms are in place, and what oversight will the board provide, to guarantee that our operational rigor matches the clarity of our ethical aspirations, especially as we scale and complexity increases?"

Rationale for the Question:

This question is designed to elevate the discussion from operational tactics to strategic oversight, directly addressing the core dilemmas presented by the Mishnah. It forces leadership to articulate their approach to risk management and ethical governance in a way that is tangible, verifiable, and scalable.

  1. Addressing "Conspicuousness" and "Imparting Flavor": The question directly references the Mishnah’s metaphor of "conspicuous" risks and the idea of "imparting flavor." This prompts an examination of how the company identifies and handles obvious ethical or compliance issues. It asks: Are we just looking for the obvious "sciatic nerve," or are we actively preventing it from tainting the whole "thigh"? This pushes for a proactive, rather than reactive, stance.

  2. Challenging "Expert Credibility" with Due Diligence: The question probes the reliance on "expert assurances" and contrasts it with "verifiable practice." This directly engages with the tension between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis. It demands that leadership demonstrate how they ensure truth and accuracy, moving beyond simply accepting the word of internal or external professionals. It asks for concrete "credibility checks."

  3. Focus on Systemic Mechanisms and Board Oversight: The question shifts the focus to the systems and oversight required for sustained ethical performance, particularly "as we scale." This is critical for founders and boards. It’s not enough to have good intentions; there must be robust processes and diligent oversight to ensure those intentions are translated into action across the organization. The board’s role in governance is paramount here.

  4. Connecting Ethics to Business Value: By framing the question in terms of "mitigating risks" and ensuring "operational rigor matches ethical aspirations," it connects ethical conduct directly to business value and sustainability. A company that can credibly demonstrate thorough ethical practices, especially concerning conspicuous risks, builds trust, enhances its brand, and is more resilient to crises. This is an ROI-minded approach to ethics.

  5. Promoting a Culture of Rigor: The question aims to foster a culture where ethical considerations are not an afterthought but an integral part of strategic planning and daily operations. It implies that the board expects leadership to champion a level of rigor that is commensurate with the company's ambitions and its potential ethical exposures.

This question forces leadership to articulate their strategy for ethical governance in a way that is both principled and practical. It’s about ensuring that the company’s "operating system" for ethics is as robust as its financial or technological systems, and that the board is actively engaged in holding leadership accountable for its integrity.

Takeaway + Citations

Takeaway: The seemingly arcane details of the sciatic nerve prohibition reveal profound business principles. Ethics isn't about avoiding the big, obvious sins; it's about meticulous attention to detail, rigorous verification, and a commitment to thoroughness, especially when risks are conspicuous. As you scale, superficial fixes become liabilities. True leadership requires building systems that ensure the "sciatic nerve" of compromise is not just removed, but that the entire operation is cleansed, thereby building a robust, trustworthy, and ultimately more profitable enterprise.

Citations:

  • Mishnah Chullin 7:5-6: https://www.sefaria.org/Mishnah_Chullin_7%3A5-6
  • Genesis 32:33: https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.32.33
  • Rambam on Mishnah Chullin 7:5:1: https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Maachalot_Assurot.7.1 (Note: The Sefaria link points to the Mishneh Torah, which contains Rambam's commentary/codification. The direct commentary on the Mishnah itself is integrated within the Mishnah text or found in commentaries on the Mishnah.)
  • Tosafot Yom Tov on Mishnah Chullin 7:5:1: (Commentary on Mishnah Chullin 7:5, specific to the line about sinews and flavor) - Accessible via the Mishnah Chullin 7:5 link on Sefaria, as commentaries are often embedded.
  • Tosafot Yom Tov on Mishnah Chullin 7:5:2: (Commentary on Mishnah Chullin 7:5, specific to the line about butchers' credibility) - Accessible via the Mishnah Chullin 7:5 link on Sefaria.
  • Tosafot Yom Tov on Mishnah Chullin 7:5:3: (Commentary on Mishnah Chullin 7:5, specific to the line about broth flavor) - Accessible via the Mishnah Chullin 7:5 link on Sefaria.
  • Rashash on Mishnah Chullin 7:5:1: (Commentary on Mishnah Chullin 7:5, specific to the line about sinews and flavor) - Accessible via the Mishnah Chullin 7:5 link on Sefaria.
  • Mishnat Eretz Yisrael on Mishnah Chullin 7:5:1-12: (Commentary on Mishnah Chullin 7:5) - Accessible via the Mishnah Chullin 7:5 link on Sefaria.
  • Yachin on Mishnah Chullin 7:21:1: (Commentary on Mishnah Chullin 7:21, related context) - Accessible via the Mishnah Chullin 7:21 link on Sefaria.
  • Yachin on Mishnah Chullin 7:22:1: (Commentary on Mishnah Chullin 7:22, related context) - Accessible via the Mishnah Chullin 7:22 link on Sefaria.